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Waycos
So what does everything think?

I didn't watch most of it. In fact I watched about 5 minutes of it but I did catch the In Memoriam bit. How the hell fo you leave off Brad Renfro but include some agents? With movies like Apt Pupil, Ghost World, and most recently The Informers, how do you not list him?

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Performance by an actor in a leading role
George Clooney in Michael Clayton (Warner Bros.)
Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will Be Blood (Paramount Vantage and Miramax)
Johnny Depp in Sweeney Todd The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
(DreamWorks and Warner Bros., Distributed by DreamWorks/Paramount)
Tommy Lee Jones in In the Valley of Elah (Warner Independent)
Viggo Mortensen in Eastern Promises (Focus Features)

Performance by an actor in a supporting role
Casey Affleck in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Warner Bros.)
Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men (Miramax and Paramount Vantage)
Philip Seymour Hoffman in Charlie Wilsons War (Universal)
Hal Holbrook in Into the Wild (Paramount Vantage and River Road Entertainment)
Tom Wilkinson in Michael Clayton (Warner Bros.)

Performance by an actress in a leading role
Cate Blanchett in Elizabeth: The Golden Age (Universal)
Julie Christie in Away from Her (Lionsgate)
Marion Cotillard in La Vie en Rose (Picturehouse)
Laura Linney in The Savages (Fox Searchlight)
Ellen Page in Juno (Fox Searchlight)

Performance by an actress in a supporting role
Cate Blanchett in Im Not There (The Weinstein Company)
Ruby Dee in American Gangster (Universal)
Saoirse Ronan in Atonement (Focus Features)
Amy Ryan in Gone Baby Gone (Miramax)
Tilda Swinton in Michael Clayton (Warner Bros.)

Best animated feature film of the year
Persepolis (Sony Pictures Classics) Marjane Satrapi and Vincent Paronnaud
Ratatouille (Walt Disney) Brad Bird
Surf's Up (Sony Pictures Releasing) Ash Brannon and Chris Buck

Achievement in art direction
American Gangster (Universal)
Art Direction: Arthur Max
Set Decoration: Beth A. Rubino
Atonement (Focus Features)
Art Direction: Sarah Greenwood
Set Decoration: Katie Spencer
The Golden Compass (New Line in association with Ingenious Film Partners)
Art Direction: Dennis Gassner
Set Decoration: Anna Pinnock
Sweeney Todd The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (DreamWorks and Warner Bros., Distributed by DreamWorks/Paramount)
Art Direction: Dante Ferretti
Set Decoration: Francesca Lo Schiavo

There Will Be Blood (Paramount Vantage and Miramax)
Art Direction: Jack Fisk
Set Decoration: Jim Erickson

Achievement in cinematography
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Warner Bros.) Roger Deakins
Atonement (Focus Features) Seamus McGarvey
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (Miramax/Pathé Renn) Janusz Kaminski
No Country for Old Men (Miramax and Paramount Vantage) Roger Deakins
There Will Be Blood (Paramount Vantage and Miramax) Robert Elswit

Achievement in costume design
Across the Universe (Sony Pictures Releasing) Albert Wolsky
Atonement (Focus Features) Jacqueline Durran
Elizabeth: The Golden Age (Universal) Alexandra Byrne
La Vie en Rose (Picturehouse) Marit Allen
Sweeney Todd The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (DreamWorks and Warner Bros., Distributed by DreamWorks/Paramount) Colleen Atwood

Achievement in directing
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (Miramax/Pathé Renn) Julian Schnabel
Juno (Fox Searchlight) Jason Reitman
Michael Clayton (Warner Bros.) Tony Gilroy
No Country for Old Men (Miramax and Paramount Vantage) Joel Coen and Ethan Coen
There Will Be Blood (Paramount Vantage and Miramax) Paul Thomas Anderson

Best documentary feature
No End in Sight (Magnolia Pictures)
A Representational Pictures Production
Charles Ferguson and Audrey Marrs
Operation Homecoming: Writing the Wartime Experience (The Documentary Group)
A Documentary Group Production
Richard E. Robbins
Sicko (Lionsgate and The Weinstein Company)
A Dog Eat Dog Films Production
Michael Moore and Meghan OHara
Taxi to the Dark Side (THINKFilm)
An X-Ray Production
Alex Gibney and Eva Orner

War/Dance (THINKFilm)
A Shine Global and Fine Films Production
Andrea Nix Fine and Sean Fine


Best documentary short subject
Freeheld
A Lieutenant Films Production
Cynthia Wade and Vanessa Roth

La Corona (The Crown)
A Runaway Films and Vega Films Production
Amanda Micheli and Isabel Vega
Salim Baba
A Ropa Vieja Films and Paradox Smoke Production
Tim Sternberg and Francisco Bello
Saris Mother (Cinema Guild)
A Daylight Factory Production
James Longley

Achievement in film editing
The Bourne Ultimatum (Universal) Christopher Rouse
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (Miramax/Pathé Renn) Juliette Welfling
Into the Wild (Paramount Vantage and River Road Entertainment) Jay Cassidy
No Country for Old Men (Miramax and Paramount Vantage) Roderick Jaynes
There Will Be Blood (Paramount Vantage and Miramax) Dylan Tichenor

Best foreign language film of the year
Beaufort A Metro Communications, Movie Plus Production
Israel
The Counterfeiters An Aichholzer Filmproduktion, Magnolia Filmproduktion Production
Austria
Katyń An Akson Studio Production

Poland
Mongol A Eurasia Film Production
Kazakhstan
12 A Three T Production
Russia


Achievement in makeup
La Vie en Rose (Picturehouse) Didier Lavergne and Jan Archibald
Norbit (DreamWorks, Distributed by Paramount) Rick Baker and Kazuhiro Tsuji
Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End (Walt Disney) Ve Neill and Martin Samuel

Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original score)
Atonement (Focus Features) Dario Marianelli
The Kite Runner (DreamWorks, Sidney Kimmel Entertainment and Participant Productions, Distributed by Paramount Classics) Alberto Iglesias
Michael Clayton (Warner Bros.) James Newton Howard
Ratatouille (Walt Disney) Michael Giacchino
3:10 to Yuma (Lionsgate) Marco Beltrami

Achievement in music written for motion pictures (Original song)
Falling Slowly from Once
(Fox Searchlight)
Music and Lyric by Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova

Happy Working Song from Enchanted
(Walt Disney)
Music by Alan Menken
Lyric by Stephen Schwartz
Raise It Up from August Rush
(Warner Bros.)
Music and lyric by Jamal Joseph, Charles Mack and Tevin Thomas
So Close from Enchanted
(Walt Disney)
Music by Alan Menken
Lyric by Stephen Schwartz
Thats How You Know from Enchanted
(Walt Disney)
Music by Alan Menken
Lyric by Stephen Schwartz

Best motion picture of the year
Atonement (Focus Features)
A Working Title Production
Tim Bevan, Eric Fellner and Paul Webster, Producers
Juno (Fox Searchlight)
A Mandate Pictures/Mr. Mudd Production
Lianne Halfon, Mason Novick and Russell Smith, Producers
Michael Clayton (Warner Bros.)
A Clayton Productions, LLC Production
Sydney Pollack, Jennifer Fox and Kerry Orent, Producers
No Country for Old Men (Miramax and Paramount Vantage)
A Scott Rudin/Mike Zoss Production
Scott Rudin, Ethan Coen and Joel Coen, Producers

There Will Be Blood (Paramount Vantage and Miramax)
A JoAnne Sellar/Ghoulardi Film Company Production
JoAnne Sellar, Paul Thomas Anderson and Daniel Lupi, Producers

Best animated short film
I Met the Walrus
A Kids & Explosions Production
Josh Raskin
Madame Tutli-Putli (National Film Board of Canada)
A National Film Board of Canada Production
Chris Lavis and Maciek Szczerbowski
Même les Pigeons Vont au Paradis (Even Pigeons Go to Heaven) (Premium Films)
A BUF Compagnie Production
Samuel Tourneux and Simon Vanesse
My Love (Moya Lyubov) (Channel One Russia)
A Dago-Film Studio, Channel One Russia and Dentsu Tec Production
Alexander Petrov
Peter & the Wolf (BreakThru Films)
A BreakThru Films/Se-ma-for Studios Production
Suzie Templeton and Hugh Welchman



Best live action short film
At Night
A Zentropa Entertainments 10 Production
Christian E. Christiansen and Louise Vesth
Il Supplente (The Substitute) (Sky Cinema Italia)
A Frame by Frame Italia Production
Andrea Jublin
Le Mozart des Pickpockets (The Mozart of Pickpockets) (Premium Films)
A Karé Production
Philippe Pollet-Villard

Tanghi Argentini (Premium Films)
An Another Dimension of an Idea Production
Guido Thys and Anja Daelemans
The Tonto Woman
A Knucklehead, Little Mo and Rose Hackney Barber Production
Daniel Barber and Matthew Brown

Achievement in sound editing
The Bourne Ultimatum (Universal)
Karen Baker Landers and Per Hallberg

No Country for Old Men (Miramax and Paramount Vantage)
Skip Lievsay
Ratatouille (Walt Disney)
Randy Thom and Michael Silvers
There Will Be Blood (Paramount Vantage and Miramax)
Christopher Scarabosio and Matthew Wood
Transformers (DreamWorks and Paramount in association with Hasbro)
Ethan Van der Ryn and Mike Hopkins

Achievement in sound mixing
The Bourne Ultimatum (Universal)
Scott Millan, David Parker and Kirk Francis
No Country for Old Men (Miramax and Paramount Vantage)
Skip Lievsay, Craig Berkey, Greg Orloff and Peter Kurland
Ratatouille (Walt Disney)
Randy Thom, Michael Semanick and Doc Kane
3:10 to Yuma (Lionsgate)
Paul Massey, David Giammarco and Jim Stuebe
Transformers (DreamWorks and Paramount in association with Hasbro)
Kevin OConnell, Greg P. Russell and Peter J. Devlin

Achievement in visual effects
The Golden Compass (New Line in association with Ingenious Film Partners)
Michael Fink, Bill Westenhofer, Ben Morris and Trevor Wood

Pirates of the Caribbean: At Worlds End (Walt Disney)
John Knoll, Hal Hickel, Charles Gibson and John Frazier
Transformers (DreamWorks and Paramount in association with Hasbro)
Scott Farrar, Scott Benza, Russell Earl and John Frazier

Adapted screenplay
Atonement (Focus Features)
Screenplay by Christopher Hampton
Away from Her (Lionsgate)
Written by Sarah Polley
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (Miramax/Pathé Renn)
Screenplay by Ronald Harwood
No Country for Old Men (Miramax and Paramount Vantage)
Written for the screen by Joel Coen & Ethan Coen
There Will Be Blood (Paramount Vantage and Miramax)
Written for the screen by Paul Thomas Anderson

Original screenplay
Juno (Fox Searchlight)
Written by Diablo Cody

Lars and the Real Girl (MGM)
Written by Nancy Oliver
Michael Clayton (Warner Bros.)
Written by Tony Gilroy
Ratatouille (Walt Disney)
Screenplay by Brad Bird
Story by Jan Pinkava, Jim Capobianco, Brad Bird
The Savages (Fox Searchlight)
Written by Tamara Jenkins
Pie
man, No Country won a LOT Of awards last night. I'll have to check it out sometime...

I'm glad Juno got an award, and [at least] two nominations. I really liked that movie.
Arthur Dent
No Country for Old Men deserved every award it was nominated for. Best film of the last five years, maybe ten.
Chade
::Waycos edit:: Copied and pasted. thanks


Same list without weird characters
Nicap
Personally glad Transformers did not win a single thing.

Big fan of G1 Transformers. Just not the live action movie.
Waycos
I do like the new Michael Bay commercial though.. The "awesome pool" is my favorite.
Nicap
QUOTE(Waycos @ Feb 25 2008, 03:06 PM) *
I do like the new Michael Bay commercial though.. The "awesome pool" is my favorite.


Oh yeah, It's funny. I like it too.
Scarlet Speedster
QUOTE(Arthur Dent @ Feb 25 2008, 12:09 PM) *
No Country for Old Men deserved every award it was nominated for. Best film of the last five years, maybe ten.


While I loved No Country, I think Casey Affleck's performance in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford was more deserving than Bardem's. Both were good, but Affleck showed more of a range in his character, and it just felt more complete. While Bardem's was a solid performance, Chigurh just felt a bit like a cartoon compared to Ford.
Arthur Dent
QUOTE(Scarlet Speedster @ Feb 25 2008, 03:34 PM) *
QUOTE(Arthur Dent @ Feb 25 2008, 12:09 PM) *
No Country for Old Men deserved every award it was nominated for. Best film of the last five years, maybe ten.


While I loved No Country, I think Casey Affleck's performance in The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford was more deserving than Bardem's. Both were good, but Affleck showed more of a range in his character, and it just felt more complete. While Bardem's was a solid performance, Chigurh just felt a bit like a cartoon compared to Ford.

Wow. I think this is the biggest disagreement I've ever had with you.

Bardem is absolutely perfect and, like No Country for Old, Anton Chigurh is the best character of the last five years. Chigurh is complex on so many levels. The principles that he lives his life by, his belief in fate, how he sees himself within fate, he doesn't kill for pleasure or greed. He kills because he was meant to. He passes from person to person like the coin. And yet, Carla Jean tries presents the opposition of choice, telling him the coin has no say over who lives and who dies, it's just Chigurh. Still, we see the power of fate of Chirgurh and the entire film. Chirgurh ends up with the money, Chirgurh ends up killing Carla Jean. He's both present and beyond every character. He essentially is fate with the film. He cannot be denied and he cannot be stopped. Bardem brings McCarthy's notions of a character with no history and no background. His accent is unrecognizable, he has no past, except with Carson Wells, who he murders. He is seen by everyone, but forgotten. He takes no great pleasure in the killing. Bardem masters the role of a killer who can be seen as either principled or psychopathic.

And, remember the ending speech of Ed Tom Bell. An old man that dreams of a world of his father, of his ancestors. Yet, he wakes up to a world with no humanity that is embodied by the inhuman Chigurh.
Scarlet Speedster
It's purely subjective.

While I agree that Chigurh was what you say he is, that's kind of why I didn't love him. He was a force rather than a "real" character. I realize this isn't the same as evaluating their performances, but some of your points are also unrelated to Bardem's perfomance, I think it's just too difficult to separate these things in one's mind. I do have to disagree though on Chigurh being complex. He has his view, mantra, paradigm etc., but he never questions that. He has no internal conflict; he's an unstoppable force, the ultimate badass. Chigurh simply wasn't as multidimensional as Robert Ford was portrayed. Chigurh's convictions felt a bit contrived, where as Ford's characteristics and behavior was relatable. Robert Ford just felt like a far more realistic character than Chigurh.
Arthur Dent
I think you're judging him the wrong way. Chigurh is a character that is made intentionally inhuman and beyond what people are capable of. Perhaps that's what you dont like about him. I do see inner conflict within Chigurh, not about his principles, but about other people. He doesn't understand Carla Jean. He wants her to play her role in fate, but she refuses. He doesn't understand the old man in the gas station. He keeps asking these people to play their role, but he can't understand why they don't, especially Carla Jean. When finally fate strikes him at the end of the film in the car crash. He can't comprehend it, he can only run from it.
Scarlet Speedster
QUOTE(Arthur Dent @ Feb 25 2008, 08:47 PM) *
I think you're judging this the wrong way.


That's kind of unreasonable. This is such a personally subjective thing that I don't think there's any right or wrong way to evaluate something so widely open to interpretation.

Except shit like seeing a movie just because an actress is hot, that's wrong and sad.
Arthur Dent
Fair enough.
Waycos
I think both of you got both characters down right. I think the reason Bardem won is because his type of character can very easily become cheezy and comical. Like Harvey Dent from Batman. Casey Affleck's character was more real thus as long as he puts emotion into the character he can make it real. I think all things equal, both actor's doing a good job, it was that bit of difficulty in keeping Bardem's character from becoming another Harvey Dent is what got him the award.
wutthecrapman
QUOTE(Nicap @ Feb 25 2008, 02:56 PM) *
Personally glad Transformers did not win a single thing.

Big fan of G1 Transformers. Just not the live action movie.



They were robbed out of the only award they should have won. Achievement in visual effects. I watched all the nominated films in that category, and it wasn't even close.

Say what you want about Michael Bay, yes he loves blowing things up, but it was done far better than a ridiculous polar bear. The robot fight in the high rise building scene alone should have won the award.

Hate the director or genre I get it, but give the movie it's due in the only category it achieved in.
Waycos
See I disagree with that. I think they were drastically flawed in putting way to much detail into the robots and their transformation. I understand that if you look closely you can see all the wires and pieces moving around but this is a Giant robot on screen and the end result was just a big messy blur. I think that has to be taken into consideration and why I think they didn't deserve it.
Nicap
QUOTE(Waycos @ Mar 4 2008, 11:30 AM) *
See I disagree with that. I think they were drastically flawed in putting way to much detail into the robots and their transformation. I understand that if you look closely you can see all the wires and pieces moving around but this is a Giant robot on screen and the end result was just a big messy blur. I think that has to be taken into consideration and why I think they didn't deserve it.


You could make the argument that life is much much much harder to animate in CG then metal. That could be why Transformers did not win.
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